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Week of March 16, 2003
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You say that the King of the North will flood over the lands and subjugate his rival. But, if the UN is the King of the North at this point, and US/Britain is the beast out of the earth, which gives life to the UN so that it takes on a life of it's own, and the kings of the earth give there power to the wild beast (UN - Eighth King), Then who is the rival that the King of the North at this point subjugates?
Does it not seem as though the King of the North right now is the U.S., going forth in a great rage after 9/11? (Reports from the northern and eastern lands) Does not the U.S. rule over all the desirable things of Egypt and the hidden treasures (oil) to protect it from dictators/terrorists? Have they come with horsemen, chariots and many ships right now!? You even alluded to the fact that the King of the North could be the U.S.
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The only way to understand the prophecies, and indeed, the last 500 years of world history, is by recognizing that the primary struggle in civilization is between the empire, in all its various guises, and the nation-state. The empire more fully expresses the demonically-driven impulse for man to dominate man—as the scripture describes. Whereas, the democratic nation-state better reflects the nobility inherent in God's intelligent creation and provides a political outlet for men to work for the common good. Because each person struggles with the duality of being made in God's image, while simultaneously being burdened with inherited sin and animal impulses due to our fallen nature, the conflict inherent in each person is reflected politically between the tendency of governments to both oppress and uplift their citizens.
During the last several centuries, the ongoing conflict between the two opposing ideologies has resulted in virtually every war that has been fought. Yet, no one nation completely embodies one ideology to the exclusion of the other. Hence, while America used to be staunchly opposed to the British Empire on principle, over the course of time, the United States has become more and more oppressive and imperialistic itself—as many observers now recognize. To the extent, though, that the United States becomes the next Roman Empire, as many now fear it is in the process of doing, to that extent America becomes the victim of subversion of itself by the very forces of empire which it used to oppose.
While no nation can individually stand up to the Anglo-American superpower militarily, the prophecies indicate that at some point the seventh king will suffer a catastrophe, after which the recovered king will fully empower the 8th king. At this point, no one can foresee exactly how the present Anglo-American duo will be brought down. But, suffice it to say that history has many Waterloos and Carchemishes.
One possibility is that a rogue nation, or even terrorists, could use red mercury nuclear fusion neutron bombs to equalize the Anglo-American's military supremacy. In that sort of scenario, it is likely that a panic in the financial markets would inevitably ensue and the American dollar-dominated global financial system would, no doubt, instantly collapse, thereby effectively bringing an end to the present system as we know it-- thus paving the way for a heretofore-unseen form of global empire.
Since in prophecy the king of the north is the aggressor, it is evident that the king of the north is the champion of the empire; while the king of the south appears to be the bulwark against imperial aggression. So, in the event of the aforementioned catastrophic collapse of the Anglo-American system, it is not at all out of the question that afterwards the United States could take the lead in transferring its remaining political and military power to the United Nations and thereby remove any impediment for the empire to impose global tyranny and genocide—as the prophecy calls for.
It may be that we are now witnessing the preliminary stage of the final decisive pushing between the two rival kings, which is evident in the two antagonistic camps that have recently developed, composed of the Anglo-American coalition and the rest of the nation-states under the banner of the UN. Ultimately, though, the prophecy of Daniel is sealed until the time of the end, which of course is when the final pushing and flooding-over occurs. So, we must wait a little longer to see how events shape up before we can get a clear view of where we stand.
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I have a question that causes Jehovah's Witnesses to squirm every time you bring up the subject. The subject of "false prophets" and "false prophecies" seems to put JW's in a very embarrassing position. If JW's compare themselves with the scripture at Deut 18:20-22, dealing with false prophets, they would have to agree that the Watchtower would have been stoned to death in biblical times for their numerous false prophecies. Many JW's will tell you, "we have admitted our errors, so therefore we are not false prophets.” That just does not wash. Where in the bible does it say a false prophet is no longer a false prophet just because he admits to being a false prophet? Jehovah's Witnesses will dodge and squirm and go off the subject when you are dealing with this topic but none of them can get around Deut 18:20-22.
So my question to you E-watchman is—do you think that Jehovah's Witnesses have given false prophecies? After 1914, 1915, 1925 and1975, how can you say they are not false prophets? And if you do believe they are false prophets, then why do you keep insisting they are “the Truth"? Would Jehovah God and Jesus Christ really use false prophets to carry on their messages? I like to see you get out of this one. Every Jehovah's Witness that I ask never come back to my house with an answer, even though they promise me they will do so.
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Just because the Watchtower has never addressed this issue for Jehovah's Witnesses does not mean that our faith has no defense against such reasonings. But, you might want to ask yourself a few soul-searching questions first. For example, what is your motive in asking Jehovah's Witnesses this line of questioning? Is it because you want to embarrass them and make them "squirm," as you boast, or do you really want to know the truth? If you really want to know the truth, you must resist the tendency to expect and accept simplistic yes or no answers to cleverly-designed questions, such as you have posed. Granted, you did not personally formulate this question, because, for a fact, it is a line of reasoning that our opposers have used against us for some time now. The fact is that many people merely parrot this, and other accusations, and seize upon such things as a pretext for remaining in a faithless condition.
It is important to recognize that there are those who are as described in the Psalms as apostate mockers, who are saying of Jehovah's anointed ones: "Aha! Aha! Our eye has seen it." (See the 35th Psalm) Apparently, that is as if to say: 'Aha! Now we have the goods on them!' It is vital, then, at the onset, to appreciate that such questions originate with apostate Jehovah's Witnesses and are intended to cause others to stumble. Nevertheless, in spite of the motives of some, we trust that there are those relatively few honest and sincere truthseekers who would appreciate an answer to the question raised.
Let's address your last question first. You stated: "Would Jehovah God and Jesus Christ really use false prophets to carry on their messages?" This question presumes to know the mind of God. In order not to make baseless assumptions, though, we must have some insight into Jehovah's dealings with those whom we know were his messengers. After all, ultimately our motive and goal should be to know God. To that end we must consult the only book that has Jehovah's signature—that being the Bible.
On numerous occasions Jesus told his apostles that he was going to be put to death. At Luke 9:44 Jesus told them: "Give lodgment to these words in your ears, for the Son of man is destined to be delivered into the hands of men." But, the next verse informs us that not only did the apostles "continue without understanding" but that "it was concealed from them that they might not see through it." What that tells us is that it was Jehovah's will that the apostles temporarily not understand this vital truth; at least not until after Jesus had been put to death.
However, in spite of that fact, Jehovah himself spoke to Peter, James, and John on the Mount of transfiguration and commanded them to listen to his son. Besides that, Jesus entrusted his message to them and commanded his disciples to go forth and declare that the kingdom of God had drawn near. That, in spite of the fact that Jesus well knew that his apostles did not understand the true nature of God's kingdom at that time. They were still under the impression that it was an earthly kingdom and that Jesus was going to begin his rule right there in Jerusalem. No doubt, that is the message that they originally imparted to the householder as they went about their ministry. Even after Jesus was put to death and resurrected, the apostles still asked him if he was restoring the kingdom to Israel right then.
But, the question is: Why do you suppose that God would deliberately conceal the truth from those who were at the same time commanded to preach a message that had to have been faulty, due to the very thing that God had concealed from them? The answer has a bearing upon the way God deals with his latter-day organization as well.
Another account worthy of our consideration is what is recorded in the 21st chapter of John. That is where we are told that the apostles misunderstood Jesus to say that John would not die until Christ had returned. As a consequence of that misunderstanding, according to the wording in the NIV, a "rumor spread in the community that this disciple would not die" until Jesus returned. That the aged apostle John felt compelled to set the record straight when he wrote the Bible's last gospel account, indicates that the rumor was still alive and well 60 years later.
In effect, the apostles created a situation very similar to Jehovah's Witnesses today, in that those in positions of responsibility created false expectations in the organization with respects to the return of Christ within that particular generation. According to the criteria put forth by apostate Jehovah's Witnesses, the apostles were themselves false prophets. But, the real question is: Did God condemn the apostles as false prophets because they spread the rumor among the Christian community that Christ would return before the apostle John died? Obviously not. However, it suited God's purpose, in part, to allow for such operations of error to satisfy the Devil's demand that he be allowed to sift the anointed sons of God as wheat.
From the accounts cited above, it is evident that merely cultivating false expectations regarding Christ's return does not necessarily make one a false prophet in God's estimation. Furthermore, it is also evident that Jehovah's Will dictates that his modern servants be blinded to certain vital spiritual truths—as were the apostles. (Some of these prophecies are discussed in detail in numerous essays, for example: "Who is Blind as the Servant of Jehovah?")
However, admittedly, there is more to the matter in our case then God merely withholding understanding from his servants or allowing his servants to entertain and spread false expectations. The truth is that there are false prophets in our midst who have misled Jehovah's Witnesses. And, it is far more serious then merely having false expectations, as was the case in 1914, 1925 and 1975.
The 13th chapter of Ezekiel issues Jehovah's judgments "against the prophets that are visioning untruth and that are divining a lie." Saying further: "In the intimate group of my people they will not continue on, and in the register of the house of Israel they will not come; and you people will have to know that I am the Sovereign Lord Jehovah."
The 10th verse continues: "For the reason, yes, for the reason that they have led my people astray, saying, "There is peace!" when there is no peace, and there is one that is building a partition wall, but in vain there are those plastering it with whitewashing."
The prophecy of Ezekiel locates false prophets in the intimate group of Jehovah's people. Far from indicating that the Israelites were not God's possession, the fact that they were under the influence of those who were described as divining a lie, obligated God to remove the individual false prophets from among God's people. The situation among God's spiritual nation today is no different. Certain leading men among our number behave in the very same way as Jehovah described in Ezekiel. They are whitewashing over serious problems in the organization and have deluded Jehovah's Witnesses into imagining that Jehovah is not going to bring his people into judgment. In effect, our leaders are saying "There is peace." They are "visioning untruth" in that they have caused Jehovah's Witnesses to believe the fiction that the tribulation commences when false religion is destroyed—even though there is no scriptural justification for such a view. And in many other ways the Watchtower is "divining a lie." Jehovah's Witnesses are under the influence of these false visions of the immediate future, in that the leadership of the organization has given us no reason to anticipate that Jehovah may pour out his anger upon us first—at the start of the judgment period.
But, as was the case in Israel, the judicial decision of Jehovah is that individuals who are responsible for dogmatically promoting falsehood will personally answer for their error. In the 9th chapter of Zechariah, a prophecy that was written after Jerusalem's destruction by the Babylonians, hence clearly applying to a future destruction of spiritual Jerusalem, the 4th verse reads: "And it must occur in that day that the prophets will become ashamed, each one of his vision." The 6th verse goes on to describe how the erroneous prophets will suffer wounds inflicted by their own brothers. It reads: "And one must say to him, 'What are these wounds on your person between your hands?' And he will have to say, 'Those with which I was struck in the house of my intense lovers.'"
Interestingly, this is similar to the judgment that Christ said would be meted out upon the faithful slave in the house of God; namely that "the slave that did not understand and so did things deserving of strokes will be beaten with few."
The Scriptures say that the judicial decisions of Jehovah are far out of reach for the wicked to mentally grasp. Clearly, that is the case when it comes to how Jehovah proposes to deal with the issue of false prophets in the midst of his people and other errors and wrong attitudes that afflict us. But, rather than false prophets and false prophecies proving that Jehovah's Witnesses are not God's people, as our enemies presume, the prophecies themselves indicate that false prophets within God's household will mislead us up until the time that Jehovah's judgments overtake them, at which point a complete and decisive house-cleaning takes place that will bring God's household into complete harmony.
The truth is: Jehovah's Witnesses can be in error and still have the truth. That may frustrate some people, but that's just the way it is. Consider the account about Job: When God first entered into the controversy he asked "Who is this that is obscuring counsel by words without knowledge?" Job said that he spoke without knowing the whole story and he humbly put his hand over his mouth. Yet, afterwards Jehovah directly rebuked Job's three false comforters and he told Eliphaz: "My anger has grown hot against you and your two companions, for you men have not spoken concerning me what is truthful as has my servant Job."
So, even though God reproved Job for obscuring the truth, paradoxically, Jehovah ultimately judged him to have spoken the truth. We are confident that Jehovah will judge similarly today in the case of his modern witnesses and that eventually our accusers will be silenced by Jehovah himself.
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The New World Translation states at John 1:1 that "the Word was a god". Since the Bible says that there is only one true God, isn't the NWT in essence saying that "the Word" is a false god. Can you justify that?
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Such questions arise out of a profound ignorance of basic Bible truths. Tragically, millions of Trinity-indoctrinated Bible readers have apparently stumbled over the first letter of the alphabet and have never advanced past the opening verse of the gospel of John—or, if they have, they are incapable of reasoning correctly. For if they had gone beyond the 1st verse, they would have discovered that numerous places in the gospel of John, Jesus Christ refers to the Father, Jehovah, as his God and Life-giver. For example, at John 17:3, Jesus was speaking to God in prayer and he referred to him as "the only true God." In the 5th verse, Jesus asked his Father to glorify him. So, it is obvious that Jesus' glory is a result of Jehovah glorifying him and it was not something that Jesus naturally possessed or took upon himself as would a demonic false god—as you wrongly suppose.
Another example is found at John 5:26, where Jesus said: "Just as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted also to the Son to have life in himself." In other words Jehovah, the Ever-living immortal God, granted Jesus the gift of immortality. Obviously, if Jesus is given immortal life by God, and evidently the ability to also confer life upon others, reasoning people can grasp the fact that even though Jesus possesses God-like powers, Jesus is himself ultimately beholden to God Almighty as his Creator and Life-giver. Thus, the text clarifies that, while Jesus is a god, he is not the God. In the original Greek, that is the thought conveyed at John 1:1.
Again, the apostle John indicates the true relationship between the Father and the Son at John 20:17. After Jesus was resurrected by Jehovah, Christ instructed Mary to go tell the disciples: "I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God." If Jesus has a deity whom he recognizes and worships as his personal God, and it is self-evident that Jesus is not the object of his own reverence, then, again, reasoning minds can grasp the simple truth that Jesus is not God.
Despite the chicanery apparent in Trinitarian-influenced Bible versions, the simple truth is that at no time did Jesus Christ ever declare himself to be God. Instead, Jesus plainly and straightforwardly said that he was God's Son and that he himself also worshipped Jehovah God and was obedient to him. So, the question really is: Why do so many people allow themselves to be so easily duped into believing the fraud that Jesus is Jehovah? Is it because, as Jesus said of the Jews, who similarly refused to recognize the truth about Christ: "I well know that you do not have the love of God in you"?
However, if you would genuinely like to know the true relationship that exists between Jehovah and his Son, and yet you have sincere questions regarding the controversy surrounding the translation of John 1:1, you would be well-advised to quickly resolve such potentially lethal stumbling blocks by considering what Jehovah's Witnesses have published on the net in various locations. 1st link, 2nd link and 3rd link.
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